There Science Behind 2012 Prophecies?
Curious about the gloom and doom 2012
prophecies? Scientist Gregg Braden, the
best-selling author of “Fractal Time,”
puts it into real-time perspective.
Did you know that the Earth is presently moving
across the equator of the Milky Way? When we talk
about the changes that are coming up in 2012,
some of those visible Earth changes are apparently
in response to the astronomical changes that are
being created by the Earth’s crossing of
the Equator of the Milky Way.
In an interview with Dr. Laurie Nadel, Gregg
Braden talks about the Mayan 2012 prophecies and
what they mean to us today.
Q: You say that 2012 is not the end of the world
but the end of a world age—a 5,125-year
cycle of time?
Braden: Some people speak about 2012 like any
other news story that you hear about every day.
Others who may not have heard anything about 2012
say, “What’s the big deal about a
Q: Maybe they think it’s like Y2K.
Braden: Precisely! I was an engineer, working
in the defense industry in the 1980s when I first
began hearing about the year 2012. Some people
were saying, literally, “It’s the
end of the world.” Others said, “It’s
the end of the world as we know it.” And
some even said, “It’s the beginning
of a thousand years of peace.”
Everyone I asked had a different opinion. What
I discovered as a scientist was that the only
way that I would know what 2012 was all about
was to understand the people who created the calendars
that tell us about 2012. And the only way to understand
them was to understand great cycles of time.
Q: What do you mean when you say, “cycles
Braden: Science now is telling us that we, on
this planet, our lives, and our planet in general,
are under the influence of great cycles of time;
cycles within cycles, within cycles. Some of the
cycles we know about, like the 24-hour cycle of
the day for day and night, or the 28-days of a
woman’s cycle. But the great cycles cover
such vast periods of time that we don’t
remember them from one civilization to the next.
Our present great cycle is a 5,125-year-long cycle
linked to an astronomical event that occurred
in the year 3114 B.C.
Q: Now, that’s almost incomprehensible
for people—3114 B.C.
Braden: It ends on December 21, the Winter Solstice,
December 21, 2012 A.D.
Q: And in that moment or on that day, the sun,
you say, is going to move into an alignment with
the equator of the Milky Way.
Braden: What happens during this time—and
we have to be really careful when we talk about
this—there is an alignment that’s
occurring because Earth does this little tip and
this little wobble over long periods of time.
As Earth changes — tips and wobbles in its
orbit, it changes the scenery of the night sky.
It changes our orientation in space with respect
to the center of our own Milky Way galaxy.
Scientists have discovered—and they are
publishing this openly—that the center of
our Milky Way galaxy is a very powerful source
of magnetic energy. The term they use is “magnetic
filiments” that radiate from the center
of our Milky Way. Where we are, in relation to
that source of energy, has a huge effect on planet
Earth. Sometimes we’re further away, and
we’re tilted away from it, and the effect
is less. Sometimes we’re closer or we’re
tilted toward it, and the effect is greater.
On December 21st in the year 2012, we have a
straight shot—a linear shot, unobstructed
by any other planets or any other bodies in the
solar system–where we have direct access
to that field of energy.
Q: Now, does this mean that the magnetic poles
are going to shift, and we’re going to have
three days of darkness?
Braden: There is no scientific evidence to support
Q: I’m glad to hear that.
Braden: There has been a lot of speculation about
it. The magnetic poles have certainly reversed
in the past. I can tell you as a former geologist
that we can see that in the geologic record, 14
times in the last 4-1/2 million years.
Each time, before the magnetic fields reversed,
they had to weaken to a certain point before that
reversal happened. Even though we have seen a
decrease in the magnetic field strength of the
Earth over the last 100 years or so, it is still
so much higher than the measurement that is needed
for it to reverse that the probability of this
happening in the next three years between 2009
and 2012 or even a year or two after, it looks
like it’s a slim probability. We’ve
got so many other things to worry about.
Q: Are there new discoveries that show that we
can think of time as an essence that follows the
same rhythms and cycles that govern everything
from particles to galaxies? Can we think of these
things that happen in time as places within cycles?
Braden: The bottom line is that time is essentially
a wave that is moving in one direction. Right
now it’s moving from the present to the
future. So, the seeds for things that are happening
today and events like 2012 that are yet to happen
have already occurred in the past.
If we know where to look into the past, it gives
us a good idea of what we can expect in the present
and the future. Time’s waves follow natural
rhythms, cycles, and natural progressions. This
means that we can measure, calculate, and predict
when the seeds – the conditions —
for an event are going to happen again, and again,
and again. This means that we can take the year
2012 calculate backwards, using natural rhythms
to the times in our history when the seed for
2012 was planted. Looking at the seed, we can
determine when the patterns and events that will
happen in 2012 were set into motion. We can go
into the geologic record to see what was happening
then on the planet. Or we can go into the archaeological
record to see what was happening to people to
give us a really good idea of what we can expect
over these next few years.
Q You talk about how the conditions for the Mayan
end-date of 2012 have already happened in our
Q: What can we do to prepare for Earth changes
that are going to happen in 2012?
Braden: To prepare for whatever is happening,
we have to understand what it is that’s
going to happen. This is the value of knowing
precisely where to look in the past to understand
what we’re about to experience or what we’re
already experiencing now.
Q: Now, you talked about Pearl Harbor and 2001
as being years that were kind of hot dates when,
in fact, the United States was, both times, attacked.
What are some of the other hot dates that you
refer to in the book?
Braden: For 2012, the records show that when
we’ve look into the history of the Earth,
into the ice cores in Antarctica, for example,
it preserved a record of Earth’s past. When
we look into those ice cores at the dates that
are the fractals or the seed patterns for 2012,
they tell us that in those dates the magnetic
fields of the Earth became weaker. The energy
from the sun was stronger so that the ice on the
poles began to melt. The oceans began to rise,
the climate began to shift, and the weather patterns
began to change.
Q: We are experiencing that now.
Braden: Precisely, and that is the whole point.
Has the Earth gone through a big change? Yes.
Does it mean that something is wrong or something
is broken? No! It always happens when we reach
this point in a great cycle. When we are this
distance from the energy source at the center
of our Milky Way, when Earth is tilted and oriented
the way it is, apparently, this is what always
Therefore, to a large extent, we are already
experiencing the great changes that so many have
predicted. We are already seeing cities wiped
off the face of the Earth near shallow coastlines.
We are already seeing major magnitude earthquakes
and tsunamis. We are already seeing forest fires
ranging them across vast, open spaces. We are
seeing millions of people die from disease. The
United States is blessed in that we’re not
experiencing as much here as in other parts of
the world. But such change can happen anywhere
Q: The take-away message…?
Braden: It is good for us to prepare and to help
other people that are having the problems of feeling
the brunt of these changes. But here is the core:
The geologic records show that the changes are
intense; absolutely intense, but that they’re
brief. They don’t last for generation, after
generation, after generation. The archaeological
records show that when past civilizations reach
the point in their cycle where we are in right
now, they made a mistake that we don’t want
to repeat today.
Q: What was that mistake?
Braden: When the world began to change, civilizations
of the past didn’t understand the change.
They began to fight one another for the resources.
In that violent competition for what was left
when the world was changing, everyone lost. Nobody
won. The civilizations collapsed. For example,
Egypt’s 20th dynasty absolutely collapsed
during precisely this period of time and no one
even knew about them until thousands of years
We are at a point right now where we must choose
to work together for this brief period of time
to bring ourselves through this time of change.
If we make the mistakes of the past and everyone
loses. This why I feel that this book is so important
Q: A lot of people kind of feel helpless when
they start listening to stories about ancient
civilizations collapsing. They think about tsunamis
and Katrina, and it’s very hard for people
not to feel overwhelmed by the great scope of
planetary movements and fractal time. For what
can people hope?
Braden: The Global Coherence Initiative is all
about our relationship to the Earth through heart-based
Q: What is heart-based living?
Braden: In the past few years, our own science
has made a radical, revolutionary discovery that
changes everything about the way we think of ourselves
and the world. What they found is that when we
create heart-based feelings of gratitude, appreciation,
care—literally, using the muscle of the
heart to create these feelings—what we’re
actually doing is generating a magnetic field
inside our bodies that is part of the magnetic
field of the Earth that undergoes the change.
The Earth’s magnetic field rises, falls,
and regulates everything from climate to ice caps
and sea levels. This magnetic field joins all
life on Earth from a blade of grass, to an ant,
to a goldfish, to a hamster, to us. When many
of us come together and create a common feeling,
that experience is called “coherence.”
“Coherence” can actually be measured.
It is 0.10 Hertz. That is the measurement of the
coherence created between the heart and the brain.
Scientists first found out about this during
9/11 when our satellites 22,000 miles in space
began to register changes in the magnetic field
of the Earth, when humans were having feelings
about September 11th and the World Trade Center.
This is a surprise to science. They asked, “Why
would people experiencing 9/11, why would that
possibly affect the magnetic fields of the Earth?
There’s no connection, right?” Well,
wrong. They found that there is a connection and
this has led to what is called the Global Coherence
Scientists are now building the sensors that
can measure these magnetic fields and put them
up onto the website where you can watch the fields
change everyday in real time. In addition to measuring
this field, the Global Coherence Project aims
is to teach people how to create coherence in
their everyday lives. It’s not a hard thing
to do, and you don’t have to change your
lives to do it. You don’t have to change
your meditations, your prayers, or any practice.
It’s a way of being in our hearts as we
go throughout the day that’s very easy to
Q: So, it’s kind of an awareness or biofeedback-type
Braden: That is part of it. When we create this
coherence inside our bodies, it triggers about
1,400 biochemical changes. Anti-aging processes
begin. DHEA level—the life-giving hormone—surges
in our bodies. Our immune systems become really
strong. We think more clearly. We become less
aggressive. The magnetic fields of the heart are
now being documented. We are facing the greatest
challenges of 5,000 years of recorded human history.
As we face the great challenges of our time, we
are asking, “What can we do?” Here’s
what we can do: We can learn the language of the
magnetic field that is creating the changes and
help bring that field from chaos into order.
We can influence the very fields that are creating
the change. The fear about 2012 is stressing a
lot of people but we have the ability to regulate
the magnetic field by regulating the way that
we work together through our hearts. The key is:
we’ve got to work together to do it.
Interview by Laurie Nadel, Ph.D.
Host of The
Dr. Laurie Show